- making packages work together nicely
- and selecting "stable" package version sets for a broader audience
- Bad example number 1: Amarok. Do you still remember the note that "you may lose your database on stable upgrade from KDE 4.4 to KDE 4.6" in the KDE 4.6 upgrade guide? Well, that note was the end result of quite some discussion, and (at least as far as I know) Debian stable users ended up with the same database mess. So what actually happened here? Simple, KDE 4.4 was for the Amarok developers so far in the past that they did not even consider an upgrade path. Every complaint that the upgrade was broken got a boilerplate response "The problem is fixed in the new version", although what upstream actually understood as fix (and may indeed have been an improvement) introduced the upgrade trouble in the first place...
- Bad example number 2: KDEPIM. Right now there are very different opinions on whether Akonadi-based KDEPIM-4.7 is already ripe for mass consumption. Well, you'd say, if there are any doubts about that, how about at least fixing regressions and keeping KDEPIM-4.4 in a working state for a bit more time? Alas, the old version is now officially declared unmaintained, and the first bad regression has appeared with KDE-4.7.1. Discussion on IRC with one of the KDEPIM developers led me to this exchange...
[12:42:12] <dilfridge> xxxx: re bug 279432 - please, please reconsider and have at least a look at it... we still have users with a lot of problems with kmail2, and it would be great if we could support kmail1 / 2 in parallel for a whileI talked to a colleague about that and got the response that in addition to focussing on KDEPIM-4.7, "the KDEPIM guys are now paid for doing the mobile version, desktop comes second". WHAT? Something's seriously warping priorities here, I mean, I like to sometimes check my e-mail with my mobile, but without a working desktop mail application I would probably not even have an e-mail account!
[12:42:12] <bugbot> KDE bug 279432 in kontact (mail) "Error while uploading message (unexpected end of data) when applying filters" [Normal,Resolved: unmaintained] http://bugs.kde.org/279432
[12:44:01] <dilfridge> I can help testing since I see the problem myself
[13:30:29] <xxxx> dilfridge: you can help by writting a patch for it
[13:30:58] <dilfridge> indeed, I can... problem is that I'm not familiar at all with the code
[13:32:09] <dilfridge> I would not even know what parts are interacting there... kdepimlibs, kioslaves...
[13:40:31] <xxxx> note that using online imap with kmail1 never worked correctly
[16:22:02] <dilfridge> xxxx: maybe, but I've never used online imap and have the same problem :|
[end of conversation]